Well, this has been a week to burn and boil with sheer fucking rage. On Thursday, I attended a panel debate with TL and one of my best friends. It was titled 'Science Fact - science journalism and libel law' and it was taking place to inaugurate the new Science Journalism MA that has been launched at City University this year.
I have followed the case of Simon Singh and the BCA (British Chiropractic Association - they manipulate spines (and reality!)) for quite some time, and tried to tell whoever I can about it, to get people to do SOMETHING. Heresy Corner is one good source of information on the whole thing so far, but Googling 'Simon Singh BCA' should bring up links to many a blog, and Bad Science is also excellent.
Listening to Simon and Ben Goldacre discuss their respective cases, and explain the libel laws somewhat for young, clueless, sheltered types like me, was electrifying. I wanted to throw myself bodily before the House of Lords and shout about the lack of shame. All the panellists were excellent, although I noted with amusement that Duncan wasn't really able to cobble together a credible defense of our libel laws, beyond the fact that 'they're OUR libel laws' (erm, riiiight, Duncan).
Some of the things I learnt: damages rarely ever cover the full cost of having to defend yourself in the first place (which I knew, but had to be reminded of), cases are often dragged out so that they cost the defendant even more and effectively seek to crush their spirits and of course the rise of the use of 'super-injunctions' in conjunction with libel writs means that someone can sue you and NOBODY CAN KNOW. Any details about the trial can't be made public! Presumably the idea behind this is to stop the 'Streisand Effect', where a story explodes beyond previous expectations as a result of attempts to suppress it. It's one of the things I love about the Internet.
It cost BG and the Guardian 'in excess of' £500, 000 to fight his case against Matthias Rath (read all about it here! Tell everyone you know!). He won - but in the end, only about £363, 000 or so (or was it £336, 000? Damn tired brain!) was paid by Rath. Given that the Guardian had a lot of suits against it at the time (Elton John's one over Marina Hyde's column, Simon Singh's...) and is a loss-making paper anyway, it's a lot of money to put up. With the clarity and simplicity so characteristic of those who have to mediate between widespread public ignorance, and skilled academic expertise in science, Ben and Simon put the case against our libel laws very well.
Think about it - if someone sues you for what is increasingly turning out to be 'hurt feelings' rather than actual loss of reputation (consider the fucking Elton John case!), you have to PAY TO DEFEND YOURSELF. You have to pay for the right to establish that you are not a liar. In Ben's case particularly, this is like a hideous joke. He challenged a man who claimed that vitamin pills cure HIV and that anti-Aids medication doesn't! Surely, you think, there must be some 'public interest' defence available, right? FUCK, NO! I for one agree with them that there bloody well should be. I wish there was also some way to prosecute newspapers and media in general over 'endangering public health and safety' given cases such as the MMR hoax, the assertions that a teenager who died of an undiagnosed tumour died of the cervical cancer jab (yes, really!), the repeated claims that people who died of underlying health conditions actually died of swine flu and - lest we forget - the news that men are more likely to rape sober women, because women who drink 'ask for it.'
Duncan made a good point about how we need to beware of the growing pernicious influence of privacy and copyright law, but sadly that doesn't really detract from our libel tourism problems. Under English libel law, the burden of proof is on the person being sued. You are guilty till proven innocent. If we put this in the context of a company, or a magnate or an association suing an individual, how is that fair? The body of people will almost always have more money and access to the best legal counsel, than the individual will. In cases such as Ben's and Simon's, it undermines the very foundation of science to prevent criticism of your ideas by other people.
I don't believe that the law should be 'above all', especially when we have seen time and time again that it does NOT always work in the common interests of humanity, but in the interests of the richest motherfucker. It should certainly not be above science. Science might be influenced by humanity, and developed and enriched by humanity, but it exists independently of us and predates us. Cells will respire whether we realise it or not; evolution will slope slowly on and osmosis will regulate the water and ion content of our cells without our peering eyes' presence (whoo, A-level Biology! Yeah!).
The law, however, is man-made. It might be admirable and even sacred, but it is not inherent. It does not exist independently of human beings, unless we're thinking of 'natural law' (and we aren't. So there). The incredible thing about our attitudes to the law, is the mix of optimism and sheer fucking cluelessness. People really believe that laws are going to back them up, much of the time, that 'we are all equal before the law,' despite proof since time immemorial of a lil' mechanism called corruption. They assume that the law is something that will magically make itself understood to them, that they will be able to fight their own case or get a good lawyer cheap. Uh... nah? The law only works for us if we work to change it.
Our laws are certainly not terrible, but society changes very quickly and law doesn't necessarily always keep up with it. Just look at the battles that get fought about Internet content. There are people out there who want to be able to sue bloggers for remarks that may have been made totally independently of them, in comments threads. This is the 'taking offense' I mentioned earlier (and that somebody mentioned on Thursday) - and people should not be allowed to use libel laws - which seek to prevent lies from damaging a person's reputation - to silence all criticism of them. Especially not when the criticisms are actually TRUE, and when journalists are laid off right, left and centre and investigative journalism inevitably suffers. We NEED somebody to hold people like Rath to account.
Furthermore, free speech needs to be safeguarded. It's heavily ironic, because bigots often hijack the idea of free speech without, as TL remarked, actually understanding what it means. Free speech, even more ironically, is invoked by racists, misogynists and 'alternative' medicine-obsessed freaks, as exactly the opposite of what it is. They seem to think it is the right to make baseless assertions and morally and ethically unsound or abhorrent judgements, frequently without credible evidence - and have their tender feelings protected into the bargain. In short, they want to be lauded and patted for being thicker than is humanly tolerable. Whereas the whole notion of constructive free speech is that you say what you think, and if you're wrong, you get taken to task.
As I said, the astonishing hypocrisy of unpleasant people means that freedom of speech gets misunderstood a lot. I do love how bigots rail against religious ethnic minorities getting offended by anything, for example, but when their crap 'thoughts' get demolished, they go into offence overdrive. If you say what you think - rather than just saying what you feel - then hopefully you can live with what you say being rigorously challenged. And no, 'rigorously challenged' does not automatically involve rudeness and/or arrogance and sarcasm, as so many online seem to believe. Anyone who gets too offended to go on living as usual really shouldn't, in my opinion, be living in the first place. Unless, of course, we're dealing with a delightful individual like Matthias Rath, or the ever-charming Paul Dacre and his glorious goblin horde at the Daily (Hate) Mail.
Before I go to sleep (it's only Diwali tomorrow! I mean, today), I'll take up the cry that BG issued yesterday. SUPPORT DR. PETER WILMSHURST! It would also be awesome if you could: a) keep up to date with the Simon Singh campaign (he's been given leave to appeal, as his lawyer Jack of Kent reports, and may even have been defamed by the BCA!) and b) get people to sign up to Sense About Science. I have signed their petition; hell, I even donated a tenner to Simon's campaign before Justice Eady, that truckfucking privacy-law lover, turned the judgement on him.
I don't have a chequebook, or if I do, God knows where it is, so I will hunt it out this weekend/email Healthwatch UK, who are supporting Dr. Wilmshurst, and ask if I can send cash. I can't give much - poor student and all that - but I will try!
Just before I head off - read this for a warm, fuzzy feeling of love. Twitterers aren't twits after all, baby! Also, make sure you complain to the Press Complaints Commission about homophobic bee-yatch Jan Moir's Hate Mail article about the death of Stephen Gately. Charlie Brooker has all the details. Unity rides in on a pixellated white horse to suggest how we could reform our libel laws. P.S.: I just pulled this big metal spike - like about nearly two centimetres - out of my mattress when it nearly slashed my ankle. That's pretty scary, isn't it?!
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Free speech does entail one's right to make "baseless assertions", as it is evident from the preponderance of religious mumbojumbo taught to children as young as five in Britain.
I find it very peculiar that we object to racist/racialist nutbags saying what they want to say, yet we invoke some kind of liberality waste the time of a five year old to sit and listen to the most macabre (and quite often sadistic) tales from the Bible; the Koran; etc.
Muhamad -
Well, precisely. I wasn't denying that it does - simply pointing out how often bigots expect to be practically applauded for making them. If it was a society where we COULDN'T make baseless assertions at all, there would be no science!
Agree with you on the religious front. I don't know what was up with my school, or my age-group, or whatever, but I never got fed tales from the Bible or Koran or anything as far as I remember! RE was pretty much just a digested anthropology class in some ways: 'This is a member of X faith, they celebrate at these times, in this way. Respect everyone!' I thought it worked pretty well... but I went to a C of E school, and maybe that was a factor.
So, you're not religious? For some reason I thought you might be...
I actually made a complaint to the Daily Mail about the Jan Moir excuse for a piece of journalistic opinion. I reminded them that column inches are a privilege, not a right and they would do well to remind her of that.
I also left a comment... I doubt it'll get on there though. I basically called her a Nazi.
ha ha i guess i need to do what's commonly done: add the 'a' sign on my blog.
i've been free from religion from the age of 14/15, and, possibly, losing my religion earlier.
i guess, the CoE school that you went to wasn't anything like the parochial school that my little bundle of joy is attending.
can we respect everyone? e.g., a man who marries a 9yr old? a murderer? an inciter of violence? if not, then, does this, in some ways, curtail free speech, free action (civil liberties)?
since my undergraduate days, i've been troubled by all this.
'can we respect everyone? e.g., a man who marries a 9yr old? a murderer? an inciter of violence? if not, then, does this, in some ways, curtail free speech, free action (civil liberties)?'
*coughs* If I'm being honest with you? No. My policy is that such things can be tolerated, not respected, and only up to a point. I think that actions that cause harm to somebody else without their express consent and awareness (i.e. things that are NOT BDSM!), are morally unacceptable.
I am also 'free from religion' (as you so elegantly put it!) but remain inspired by much Sikh philosophy. My school was all-girls; maybe that made a difference?
For all sorts of reasons, I'm quite strongly anti-groupist. My personal problems with God aside, people can believe if they want to - but I find it hard to brook organised religion.
Sophie:
How did you manage to complain to the Daily Mail? Sadly, I doubt they'll listen. Sometimes I wonder what sort of drastic action will be necessary to make trashrags like the Daily Mail hear something other than their own warped echo.
You can culturally belong to a religion without having any faith, can't you? I have an English Bible (1611) & Book of Common Prayer (1662) occupying pride of place in my room because of their literary & cultural worth, their influence & that. I gather the Koran is used as a similar way, & I know a lot of Jewish authors have done a similar thing with the Torah & all their traditions.
You won't stop observing Diwali due to not believing in the theology- & I am sure "your" scriptures will help you understand Indian literature & culture for the better.
About this epidemic of "respect". I respect people, I don't respect ideas. Ideas have consequences, if Mrs Sod come up with some bollocks reason for rejecting the MMR vaccine for her kids it hurts them & others, so she should be challenged.
By nature I am not confrontational or assertive, but I am grateful that the likes of Benson, Dawkins, Hari etc. are.
'By nature I am not confrontational or assertive, but I am grateful that the likes of Benson, Dawkins, Hari etc. are.'
I sometimes agree with this - but not always.
'You won't stop observing Diwali due to not believing in the theology- & I am sure "your" scriptures will help you understand Indian literature & culture for the better.'
Haha, exactly. Although the Guru Granth Sahib is, as far as I know, restricted to praise of God. It does NOT issue directives on how to live life, unlike other religious texts. Which is something I highly appreciate.
'About this epidemic of "respect". I respect people, I don't respect ideas.'
That is the perfect way to put it- thanks! What I find ironic is how many people demand respect for religious ideas - without having respected those ideas themselves. If everyone in the world really respected religious ideas, there would be much more time spent arguing and questioning them and less in enacting the most reactionary elements.
However, I'll freely admit that I'm too impatient to bother with that. My religion might be very liberal in many ways, but God and mob mentality have just put me off for the foreseeable future..
Aye- obviously I cribbed that about "respect" from someone else rather than coming up with the idea myself- it was Johann Hari. :)
What I don't like is this saying "Look, forced marriage, FGM & that aren't actually in the Koran. Whereas stoning & that used to be in the Bible, but it's been superseded by Christ's death & resurrection doing away with the Mosaic law". I'd rather we said that even if these things are mandated by holy books, they're still wrong according to secular morality, which in fact believers tend to follow anyway, whilst claiming that we heathens can't be moral.
I don't so much follow a religion's life teachings- in fairness, I am familiar with the Bible (I've never had any religious beliefs but I read it because it is infuential on English language/literature & European culture, so that was what it focuses on) & I find it a bit incoherent when it comes to that.
But in most scriptures, regardless of the lifestyle advice therein, there's good literary stuff. That is what I'm there for- I keep meaning to read all sorts of non-Christian scriptures but somehow it never happens, probably due to my epic pileup of books that I'm not quick enough to get through :)
On about whether it's best to back off or challenge people. I usually do the former, but that's just me rather than because I think it's right. But it's a long-standing theme of mine that the "new atheists" get a bad press, especially Dawkins. He is a bit impatient, but he has every right to be given that he has to keep repeating himself to tits. I also find people willing to slag him off at the drop of a hat, picking up on any "news" story whether it be accurate or not.
Quite apart from the fact that I hate the phrase "fundamentalist atheist", "dogmatic atheist" etc. a lot of it is just factually wrong & can be proven so, but that won't stop the slaggers-off.
Sorry to be dribbling all over you incoherently- the original thought, by the person who actually coined it, can be found in chapter 7 of "The God Delusion" (specially that bit about "the changing moral zeitgeist").
'I'd rather we said that even if these things are mandated by holy books, they're still wrong according to secular morality, which in fact believers tend to follow anyway, whilst claiming that we heathens can't be moral.'
Yup. Or as I put it (albeit usually in the safety of my head): 'Fuck you and your 'divine authority.'
Agree about the literary importance of religious texts - I am a lit student after all.
One thing that disgusts me (and probably Dawkins too) is how little people want to do their own research. For God's sake, just Google something if you don't understand it. People use the 'new atheist' tag to detract from the respect that we owe many people like Dawkins as SCIENTISTS. This is really, REALLY bad, because as the Daily Mail proves, scientific illiteracy is a huge problem in this country.
'He is a bit impatient, but he has every right to be given that he has to keep repeating himself to tits. I also find people willing to slag him off at the drop of a hat, picking up on any "news" story whether it be accurate or not.'
Religious believers... atheist bogeyman... united in disapproval... etc.
''By nature I am not confrontational or assertive'
Rather disconcertingly, I often find that people seem to find me attractive when I behave in such a manner.
Iz it cos I iz female?! As a generalisation, some men (mostly of similar political bent) find it amusing and/or appealing, while women often are more reluctant to rock the boat. Although, there are apparently studies that show that people hate people who make a fuss...
Yes, I certainly like intelligent women & those who are relatively confident. A bit of anger certainly doesn't hurt, so long as I'm given a chance to explain whatever it is that I said that is considered offensive.
You might recall that we "met" in such a way, when you found something I said objectionable & I decided that I'd hang around & try to make some vague excuses.
Though I can't speak for others, obviously.
An intelligent woman who speaks her mind is always a good thing. Too many women don't, for fear of appearing 'unfeminine' and thus not fitting in with their girlfriends and scaring off potential partners. This attitude also hurts some males, who rather like the idea of a partner who thinks and talks about issues.
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